'We don't allow families to own tanks' and should control guns too: Democratic lawmaker

Democratic and Republican lawmakers debated gun control in wake of Las Vegas.

ByABC News
October 8, 2017, 11:08 AM

— -- A Massachusetts Democrat who served in the Iraq War and now serves in Congress calls for "commonsense" steps to reduce gun violence. A Virginia Republican who is also an Iraq War veteran serving in Congress cautions that in the wake of the Las Vegas massacre it's important to maintain "clarity through the emotional chaos."

Reps. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., and Scott Taylor, R-Va., sat down with "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz for a rare bipartisan conversation on how Congress should respond to the mass shooting a week ago in Las Vegas that left 58 people dead.

Moulton, who served four tours in Iraq as a Marine Corps infantry officer, said stricter firearms laws can reduce gun violence while adhering to the Constitution.

"I've seen the effects of gun violence firsthand in Iraq, and I know that it has no place at our schools, on our streets, at our concerts," he said.

"You can have restrictions on guns under the Second Amendment," Moulton said to Taylor. "I mean, a great way to protect your family's home, as you know as a Navy SEAL, would be to have some land mines out in front and have some grenades stockpiled. But we don't allow that in our community ... We don't allow families to own tanks. So we have reasonable restrictions that are perfectly respectful of the Second Amendment, and we know from experience that restrictions like this, that commonsense reforms will help."

But Taylor, who served as a Navy SEAL sniper in Iraq, said there is "a very high bar" to taking away people's Second Amendment rights.

"When you have a situation that happened, which was tragic, traumatic and everyone feels the same emotion ... it's up to leaders like us to have or to see clarity through the emotional chaos and to understand that it is a high, very high bar to be able to take some folks' rights away, to try to enact policies that take their rights away but not really do anything," he said.

"I'm not willing to impede on people's rights based upon your political desires, I'm just not," Taylor added.

PHOTO: Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., and Rep. Scott Taylor, R-Va., sit down with Martha Raddatz to discuss how Congress should respond to the Las Vegas shooting.
Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., and Rep. Scott Taylor, R-Va., sit down with Martha Raddatz to discuss how Congress should respond to the Las Vegas shooting.

The two congressmen agreed, however, that they may be able to find common ground on limitations on bump stocks, a weapons modifier that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire faster.

Taylor agreed with Moulton that it's reasonable to restrict bump stocks and other devices capable of turning semiautomatic weapons into automatic weapons.

Still, the Virginia Republican said, even with such restrictions people who want to convert their semiautomatic firearms would find a way to do so.

"You can create a law that says, 'OK, you can't modify your semiautomatic to automatic,' which is already illegal, right? But you know as well as I do that it's not that hard to figure out. If you want to figure it out and you're, you know, you're a little bit crafty, you can do it," Taylor said.

The two lawmakers agreed that more conversations are needed on how to address gun violence.

"I hope that this conversation will continue," Moulton said. "It took some courage for Scott to show up here, especially as a Republican, because a lot of Republicans are not willing to have this conversation, and I'm willing to sit down as a Democrat and be reasonable. But these are the conversations that we should be having in Congress to protect the American people."

Taylor responded, "I'm more than willing to sit down and have conversations to figure out how we, how we can help out. But the action that we take should be reasonable and common sense, of course. And it shouldn't unnecessarily infringe on people's constitutional rights."

"I enjoyed the conversation, and I look forward to having a lot more," Taylor added.

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